Novelty

bratishgoswami · 05-12-07, 08:13 PM

Novelty is a term used in chess, which means a move that has never been played before.

In Kabir's lyrics we discover some new words or phrases which have never been used before. Like in 'Chaichhi tomar bondhuta', pick the word 'BONDHUTA'. As far my knowledge goes, it has never been used, it's a novelty.

In the case of 'Andha Jatiswar' the phrase itself is a novelty i think. In the whole bengali literature, in my knowledge, no one ever used this concept.

r u agree with me friends???

agang · 07-12-07, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bratishgoswami

Novelty is a term used in chess, which means a move that has never been played before.

In Kabir's lyrics we discover some new words or phrases which have never been used before. Like in 'Chaichhi tomar bondhuta', pick the word 'BONDHUTA'. As far my knowledge goes, it has never been used, it's a novelty.

In the case of 'Andha Jatiswar' the phrase itself is a novelty i think. In the whole bengali literature, in my knowledge, no one ever used this concept.

r u agree with me friends???

what about...
ekaar sakaal
ferari batash

anirban

bratishgoswami · 07-12-07, 03:14 PM

in accordance with 'ferari batash' but not with the other one...

kolkata · 12-12-07, 05:22 PM

kabir suman er gane ,nanan bichitra swabder babohar.jemon bondhuta swabdo ti....kintu ferari batash ba andho jatiswar eigulo sei arthe notun swabdo noi tabe nischit bhabe notun kono bhabnar dik...ei bishaye arekti swabder katha mone pore gelo...."dekhowar dekhe"...dekhowar swabdo ti annyo kono jaygay sei bhabe chokhe poreni.....

sreyashi · 13-12-07, 01:13 PM

@bratish

sei orthe kono sobdoi moulik noy,sobdo moulik hoye othe byabohare ---
jemon onddho jatissor kimba pherari batas ---ei prosonge ''mogoje
carfew ' kimba 'mogoj bojhai biponnota' othoba 'opomrityur gan moRoke' emon onek bakyobondhoi bhir kore ase ---

bratishgoswami · 13-12-07, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sreyashi

@bratish

sei orthe kono sobdoi moulik noy,sobdo moulik hoye othe byabohare ---

thik kotha... aar sei jonye`i kintu sojotne 'moulik' sobdotike eRiye giyachhi... ami byabohar korechhi 'novelty' ei poribhasha`tike... daba khelay je chal guli novelty tara kintu niyombohirbhuto noy... sei rokom bhabei dictionary te thakleo anek shobdo`i amra byabohar kori naa kintu amader sadahron byabohar`e... keu keu thaken Kabir Suman`er moto, tNara bhashar khoni theke tule anen eisob sobdo othoba toiri koren sobdo-bondho.

@kolkata
amar moteo dekhoar ekti novelty

@Sreyashi
mogoje carfew e achhi kintu "'mogoj bojhai biponnota, pomrityur gan moRoke" -er sathe nei...

bratishgoswami · 13-12-07, 01:59 PM

achha ghum ghum rupkotha etake ki ei porjaye fela jay???

sreyashi · 13-12-07, 02:54 PM

'mogoj bojhai biponnota ei somoyer moto'' ---emon bakyobondho kothay er age
ke byabohar korechhen ?

sreyashi · 13-12-07, 03:07 PM

'gitobitaner shunko patay borshar gan''--- 'ganer gari' ----'sobuj becha manus ' ----'ablusi bhabna'' ---emon aro royechhe ----ebhabeo je sobdoke nuton rup deoya jete pare seTa Sumaner Gan bare bare chenay.

ratri · 13-12-07, 04:10 PM

ei lekhatar jamno besh kichudin age, tai thik kichudin par hatat ek dhakkar mato ami lekhata likhchi...tabe "manush amar sadhanguru sei mokamei jatra suru.. chalane gan sange thake balone asphalon"
amar prothom bidroho "novelty" ei sabdotay, emon sabdo amader sabdobandare khub kam thake jar byabohar amra kori na ar na byaboharer sabdogulo dalton er niyam mato bismitir patay jayga nite dwidha bodh kore na. hay to lekhar samay e chinta amra ba kono lekhak e katha mathay rakhen na j tini age ei sabder byabohar korechen ki na !! tabe sabder chayan ebang tar bandhon kintu anekta nana phul diye toiri malar mato.. kon sabder pare thik kono sabdota dile bhabnar artho prokash pabe ar seta shrestho hoye uthbe seta nirbhar kare likhaker nijaswatar upor. j sabdogulo athoba padobandhoguloke apni jurben ar kon guloke apni bhangben seta kintu nirbhar korche apnar opor... arekta katha lekha kintu lekhar age abhidhan niye basen na.. (eta abosso amar dharona, bhranto-o hate pare)..
sabder moulikata niye shreyashi kichu balte cheye eta bolechen "kono sabdoi moulik nay.. sabdo moulik hoye othe tar byabohare" ..'tor doriyay bhaslo ganer asphalon ' ami bolbo.. protiti sabdoi moulik prottekta alada manusher mato, protiti sabderi ekta alada identity ache tai to eki arther anek sabder samaroha amra dekhte pai jegulor byabohar o samay ebang poribesh anushare alada hay, arthat complementary distributed. byabohar holo sei moulik sabdotir poshaki rup..."jani na manab jami abade pholto kina shona... "

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bratishgoswami [ Community Liaison ] Join Date: Oct 2006 KS$: 634.50 Forum Bank: 500.00 Total KS$: 1,134.50 Donate Rep Power: 3	Novelty Novelty is a term used in chess, which means a move that has never been played before. In Kabir's lyrics we discover some new words or phrases which have never been used before. Like in 'Chaichhi tomar bondhuta', pick the word 'BONDHUTA'. As far my knowledge goes, it has never been used, it's a novelty. In the case of 'Andha Jatiswar' the phrase itself is a novelty i think. In the whole bengali literature, in my knowledge, no one ever used this concept. r u agree with me friends???

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bratishgoswami [ Community Liaison ] Join Date: Oct 2006 KS$: 634.50 Forum Bank: 500.00 Total KS$: 1,134.50 Donate Rep Power: 3	in accordance with 'ferari batash' but not with the other one...

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kolkata Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 KS$: 604.00 Forum Bank: 500.00 Total KS$: 1,104.00 Donate Rep Power: 2	kabir suman er gane ,nanan bichitra swabder babohar.jemon bondhuta swabdo ti....kintu ferari batash ba andho jatiswar eigulo sei arthe notun swabdo noi tabe nischit bhabe notun kono bhabnar dik...ei bishaye arekti swabder katha mone pore gelo...."dekhowar dekhe"...dekhowar swabdo ti annyo kono jaygay sei bhabe chokhe poreni.....

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sreyashi Bondhu Join Date: Sep 2006 KS$: 2,019.31 Forum Bank: 2,111.18 Total KS$: 4,130.49 Donate Rep Power: 10	@bratish sei orthe kono sobdoi moulik noy,sobdo moulik hoye othe byabohare --- jemon onddho jatissor kimba pherari batas ---ei prosonge ''mogoje carfew ' kimba 'mogoj bojhai biponnota' othoba 'opomrityur gan moRoke' emon onek bakyobondhoi bhir kore ase ---

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sreyashi Bondhu Join Date: Sep 2006 KS$: 2,019.31 Forum Bank: 2,111.18 Total KS$: 4,130.49 Donate Rep Power: 10	'gitobitaner shunko patay borshar gan''--- 'ganer gari' ----'sobuj becha manus ' ----'ablusi bhabna'' ---emon aro royechhe ----ebhabeo je sobdoke nuton rup deoya jete pare seTa Sumaner Gan bare bare chenay.

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ratri Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: karnatak KS$: 94.00 Forum Bank: 0.00 Total KS$: 94.00 Donate Rep Power: 1	ei lekhatar jamno besh kichudin age, tai thik kichudin par hatat ek dhakkar mato ami lekhata likhchi...tabe "manush amar sadhanguru sei mokamei jatra suru.. chalane gan sange thake balone asphalon" amar prothom bidroho "novelty" ei sabdotay, emon sabdo amader sabdobandare khub kam thake jar byabohar amra kori na ar na byaboharer sabdogulo dalton er niyam mato bismitir patay jayga nite dwidha bodh kore na. hay to lekhar samay e chinta amra ba kono lekhak e katha mathay rakhen na j tini age ei sabder byabohar korechen ki na !! tabe sabder chayan ebang tar bandhon kintu anekta nana phul diye toiri malar mato.. kon sabder pare thik kono sabdota dile bhabnar artho prokash pabe ar seta shrestho hoye uthbe seta nirbhar kare likhaker nijaswatar upor. j sabdogulo athoba padobandhoguloke apni jurben ar kon guloke apni bhangben seta kintu nirbhar korche apnar opor... arekta katha lekha kintu lekhar age abhidhan niye basen na.. (eta abosso amar dharona, bhranto-o hate pare).. sabder moulikata niye shreyashi kichu balte cheye eta bolechen "kono sabdoi moulik nay.. sabdo moulik hoye othe tar byabohare" ..'tor doriyay bhaslo ganer asphalon ' ami bolbo.. protiti sabdoi moulik prottekta alada manusher mato, protiti sabderi ekta alada identity ache tai to eki arther anek sabder samaroha amra dekhte pai jegulor byabohar o samay ebang poribesh anushare alada hay, arthat complementary distributed. byabohar holo sei moulik sabdotir poshaki rup..."jani na manab jami abade pholto kina shona... "