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Old 18-03-07, 10:12 AM   #21
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premika amar kobe bidroho hobe?valobasar porote porote aj chai protibad,sei protibad hobe rakto palase,rakto jabay.bondhura valobasa die amra bidroho kori,thote thot rekhe baricade kori,bulleter jobar chumbone di.dekhi ki kore kere ney keu ,amader hoker jomi
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hatiyar bhai,amar e jan
khodar kasam lorte hobe
amar jomi,amader hobe
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Niladri, I believe that this mass killing by the state and the ruling party will determine us to extend our support in every possible way to the people's resistance of Nandigram and as well all other parts of India.

This is the new face of imperialism..
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eiti ghatokder jonye,onader abar sustho manosikota kamona kore.santi asuk dike dike,vater gondhe vore uthuk charipas.
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Ah, it must feel nice to be on the side of the angels! You condemn "massacre of the innocents", you rebuke CPM for partying with the capitalists, your conscience is clear and you have a good night's sleep!

But when the angels wake up and find that the devil has not vanished away even though they wished him to, may be they will find a little time to actually look at the issues involved.

1. Should agricultural land be acquired for setting up industries?

2. If the answer to 1 is no, where should industries be set up?

3. If the answer to 2 is fallow lands, does a mere state government have the power and the authority to impose its will on the companies trying to set up such industries? Particularly in the context of intense competition among states to attract such industries and when other states don't make any such distinctions and don't also have to face angelic protests!

4. Should then the Bengal Governement have sat down on their haunches, decide to remain ideologically pure, and let the industries go by?

5. Would then the angels cease taking up another refrain - Bengal have become an industrial wasteland because of an inept CPM government?

6. If the answer to 1 is yes, why was it wrong for the state government to try to acquire land in Singur/Nandigram?

7. If the answer to 6 is that the government should not act as a mediator in land deals, how is it possible for projects with big land requirements and with specific timeframe for commissioning to be set up then? Particularly when other states are also in the fray, and some of these can offer sops under differential industrial policy of the Central Government not available to the Government of Bengal, and others can freely indulge in mediating acts without angelic intervention?

8. If fair compensation is the issue, how come nobody refers to the fact that compensation offered in Singur was by far the best in the country, where 90% of the land came voluntarily. And as far as Nandigram is concerned, the stage was never allowed to be reached where fair compensation could have been negotiated.

9. For industrialisation, Bengal requires 1% of the total arable land. Agreeing that people in that 1% of the land will be inconvenienced, don't the state government have greater social good to consider?

10. Same as in 4 above.

11. Coming to Nandigram issue specifically, why was trouble kept brewing when after the initial faux pas, the state CM announced that land would not be acquired in Nandigram without the villagers' consent?

12. Why do angels refuse to shed any tears for murdered Sadhu Chattopadhyaya, raped Sumita Mandal and 2500 displaced CPM supporters?

13. Was it okay for the troublemakers to dig up the roads, burn down the bridges and prevent the police and the administration to enter the area for two and a half months?

14. What should the government have done? Do nothing in such a scenario?

15. The state government called for all party meeting to resolve the issue 22 times in these two and a half months. None of the protesting parties responded. What was the angelic purpose behind that recalcitrance?

16. The police entered the area through prior notice, and clear understanding that no land is to be acquired. Why was it necessary then to create a blockade? And create a situation for police firing?

17. Conceding that police should not have fired so indiscriminately, was it unprovoked?
18. Agreeing that SEZs are bad per se, why is no protest movement organised in respect of other SEZs in other states? Was Nandigram going to be the first SEZ in the country? Can a state government enact a different set of laws for its own territory? Will it be okay if Salims take away the chemical hub elsewhere?

19. Was the entire thing manipulated with the ensuing panchayat elections in mind?

I will wait for some reasoned response.
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forum-er madhyamey sumanda-ke koyekta kotha boltey chai.
sumanda, apnar nandigram niye tara news-e anusthan-ta dekhlaam, chomkey giyechi apnaar mukhoshhin ghrinaar prokash o dhikkar-e.tar modhye phoneline jam hoye jaoao dekhlaam(sab magojey jodi oibhabey carfew kora jeto!).
sekhaney ani ekbar bolchilen CPM-er gundabahinir plan chilo media-r puro group dhookey geley pichon thekey rasta block korey deoa. kintu tar porey ki holo seta ar sedin nana kothar modhye apnar bola hoye otheni. seta janar ichcha roilo.
ar ekta kotha:etobaro ekta borborota holo;police ebong party-r posha gundabahini miley koyekta gramer koyeksho loke-ke suporikolpito ebong nrishongshobhabey hatya korlo? karor phaNsi hobey na? shudhu padotyag!!!bas..
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Ah, it must feel nice to be on the side of the angels! You condemn "massacre of the innocents", you rebuke CPM for partying with the capitalists, your conscience is clear and you have a good night's sleep!

But when the angels wake up and find that the devil has not vanished away even though they wished him to, may be they will find a little time to actually look at the issues involved.

1. Should agricultural land be acquired for setting up industries?

2. If the answer to 1 is no, where should industries be set up?

3. If the answer to 2 is fallow lands, does a mere state government have the power and the authority to impose its will on the companies trying to set up such industries? Particularly in the context of intense competition among states to attract such industries and when other states don't make any such distinctions and don't also have to face angelic protests!

4. Should then the Bengal Governement have sat down on their haunches, decide to remain ideologically pure, and let the industries go by?

5. Would then the angels cease taking up another refrain - Bengal have become an industrial wasteland because of an inept CPM government?

6. If the answer to 1 is yes, why was it wrong for the state government to try to acquire land in Singur/Nandigram?

7. If the answer to 6 is that the government should not act as a mediator in land deals, how is it possible for projects with big land requirements and with specific timeframe for commissioning to be set up then? Particularly when other states are also in the fray, and some of these can offer sops under differential industrial policy of the Central Government not available to the Government of Bengal, and others can freely indulge in mediating acts without angelic intervention?

8. If fair compensation is the issue, how come nobody refers to the fact that compensation offered in Singur was by far the best in the country, where 90% of the land came voluntarily. And as far as Nandigram is concerned, the stage was never allowed to be reached where fair compensation could have been negotiated.

9. For industrialisation, Bengal requires 1% of the total arable land. Agreeing that people in that 1% of the land will be inconvenienced, don't the state government have greater social good to consider?

10. Same as in 4 above.

11. Coming to Nandigram issue specifically, why was trouble kept brewing when after the initial faux pas, the state CM announced that land would not be acquired in Nandigram without the villagers' consent?

12. Why do angels refuse to shed any tears for murdered Sadhu Chattopadhyaya, raped Sumita Mandal and 2500 displaced CPM supporters?

13. Was it okay for the troublemakers to dig up the roads, burn down the bridges and prevent the police and the administration to enter the area for two and a half months?

14. What should the government have done? Do nothing in such a scenario?

15. The state government called for all party meeting to resolve the issue 22 times in these two and a half months. None of the protesting parties responded. What was the angelic purpose behind that recalcitrance?

16. The police entered the area through prior notice, and clear understanding that no land is to be acquired. Why was it necessary then to create a blockade? And create a situation for police firing?

17. Conceding that police should not have fired so indiscriminately, was it unprovoked?
18. Agreeing that SEZs are bad per se, why is no protest movement organised in respect of other SEZs in other states? Was Nandigram going to be the first SEZ in the country? Can a state government enact a different set of laws for its own territory? Will it be okay if Salims take away the chemical hub elsewhere?

19. Was the entire thing manipulated with the ensuing panchayat elections in mind?

I will wait for some reasoned response.
Bondhu nadi,
prothomei apnak dhanyabad janai bohudin por apnar moto ekjon pragyo byaktir lekha dekhe.belive me or not i am personally really happy to read your post.
Soabr prothomei amar jeta holo apnar lekhapore,seta holo ek dirghosyas,keno janen?
16. The police entered the area through prior notice, and clear understanding that no land is to be acquired. Why was it necessary then to create a blockade? And create a situation for police firing?

17. Conceding that police should not have fired so indiscriminately, was it unprovoked?
Bondhu apnar kothar mane ei daray je nandigrumbasira panchayet electioner kotha vebe nijeder policer samnedar korie diyechilen,bolechilen'eso,amader maro,tobe ei panchayet amader hobe?' haha!
Policer sathe ekti bisesh doler sasatro cadre dhukechilo,keno? na policek rasta dekhate.haha!
R apni bolchen displace lokeder kotha r sadhu babur kotha?onyoder kotha ami janina tobe ami personally mone kori sadhu babuk hatya oporadh ebong kauk ghor chara korao oporadh.
kintu keno tader firie nite parchen na,nandigrumbasira?karon tader voy onader sathe sathe abar sasostro cadre dhukbe.e ek prochondo voy,eto otyachar tara sahya korechen ,je aj sidure megh dekhleo tara voy pay.
hmm bola hoyechilo okhane sez hobe na kintu ei grumbasira etobar etovabe protarito hoyechen aj ei 'hobe na' kotar kono value onader kache nei,tai tader dabi chilo written documenter,jeta eto dine eto manushk mere government issue koreche.
apni sez nie bolechen,ami 21st centuryr manush hoe mone kori amadero industrialisationer dorkar tai bole sob theke fertile lande?ami mante parlam na bondhu.industrialisationer jonye je ground work dorkar ta e sarkar korenni tai aj eto manushk pran dite holo.R bondhu jodi onyo state sobai voluntarily land dey tobe amadero dite hobe,keno bondhu?tahole gujrate danga hoyeche ,cholun amrao danga badhai,kono kono state education bikri kore,cholun amrao tai kori,vai nadi apni vule jachen eta paschimbongo,jara sadhinotay sob theke besi pran diyechilo,tara sobar theke alada,r alada bolei 30 years ei sarkark manush sahya korechen,karon tara valo kajo nischoi korechen kintu aj ja korchen ta borborota.tai bondhu dont try to be blind try to be analytical.jedin sakale uthe dekhben buldozar apnar barir samne darie r apnak beghor kora hobe sedin hoyto chok khulbe,tobe jege ghumole hazar manush morleo apnak jagano jabe na,r moja hoche apnar moto onekei jege ghumote valobase.industrialisation mane jomi kere karkhana banano noi,tar infra lage,has our govt.done anything for infra?nothing.
tai to bondhu apni bolte paren haste haste

Conceding that police should not have fired so indiscriminately, was it unprovoked?

apni valo thakben,sei tukui kamona kori.nandigrumer manuser valo thakar ki dorkar?
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Initial CBI Report on Nandigram

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By IBNlive.com
Wednesday March 21, 03:56 PM
Kolkata:
The CBI team investigating the incident of farmers killing in Nandigram released its initial report on Wednesday. The report confirmed that outsiders were involved in the violence that took place on March 14.

The pattern of firing and the bullets recovered from the site points to the fact that some other people apart from the police also used firearms at the site, says the report.

It also said that most of the bullet wounds were above the torso, which is not the case in police firing. The agency reportedly found that a large number of bullets recovered from the scenes of mayhem did not match the type of ammunition used by the cops.

Five out of the ten people taken into custody on suspicion confessed having links with the youth wing of a political party adds the report.

The CBI inquiry was ordered by the high court a day after the carnage. At least 14 people were officially stated to have been killed and 71 injured in Nandigram as police opened fire to quell mobs and retake the area they lost control of in January after unrest over acquisition of farmland for a special economic zone.

Meanwhile, officers-in-charge of three police stations, in Nandigram, Khejuri and Sutahata areas of West Bengal were removed on Wednesday.

"The three officers have gone for pre-promotion training," Inspector General of Police (Law and Order) Raj Kanojia said.

Opposition parties, however, claimed that the officers were "transferred" in the wake of the March 14 police firing in which at least 14 people were killed.

"We want to know the real reason behind the transfer of the three OCs when a CBI probe is on," Manas Bhuniya, leader of Congress Legislature Party in West Bengal Assembly was quoted as saying.

"And, if the OCs were transferred, then why will the SP, DIG and IG (Western Range) will go get away free?" Bhuniya questioned


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